
SOURC. ARTIST SALUTE
Respect.
Stormie Mills
Stormie Mills is a man with a message and today puts even more of his heart into his evolving art. With the world now a polarising ‘woke and the non-woke’ his art is even more relevant than ever before. Or perhaps the world has just caught up. Whatever it is, we speak to the artist behind the monotone characters, words and his evolving (even colour) messages.
Stormie, Melissa and Beanz. Image by Frances Andrijich.
“... we need a revolution of the soul and that starts with us, inside us, ourselves, and then extends to others and the world around us. There is too much pain and suffering, and as an artist I feel it is my role to make mention of this in my work... in a way that is gentle, considered and, sometimes where needed, small. Strong negative reactions are usually based in fear and we are in fearful times, so now more than ever we need to be compassionate”
How would you describe the world right now? In pain, we have allowed so much hurt to happen in the world in the name of commercialism. The earth has huge open cut wounds in our own backyard that it is in such pain and that pain is being passed back to us, to people we love and care for all around the world right now. It is a global reset because we refuse to listen as a people to the wrongs we are doing. There is such a sense of helplessness about being so far removed from this suffering, unable to move, to help and yet our politicians, tone deaf to all of this, are continuing to trample over our collective voices while the earth cries out for help and we stand on the sidelines with tears in our eyes.
Your characters have always represented the human condition, so how is the woke culture today affecting your art, or has the world just caught up? For me as a kid, the spraycan was a tool of revolution, it gave me a voice but I was also a child in a place that was far from everywhere, so it was a small voice, so my approach with using it was perhaps more gentle, a quiet kind of anger at things. When we travelled as kids we did so on a budget which meant seeing the world in a different way, seeing it in an honest and often confronting way, for example seeing India in the 70s with my Grandmother, she was abandonded/ orphaned there, adopted by a missionary family, we saw India with her, we saw what her life may have been like, what our lives might have been like, that sliding door was heart-wrenching and profound, so we were displaced, half-cast kids, often moving, if that doesn’t make you acutely aware of your ‘wokeness’ at some point you’d have to be dead in my opinion! My life moving in a circle and ending up homeless at one point for a while added to my understanding of these things and empathy for people in that situation, then/now/in the future, for some artists their work is about the perception of the future but it’s not just these things it is also timing, my consistency of message what I try to say, that I try to say it to the person next to me not yell at the world, that is also timely I guess, as everyone in this pandemic is in a way “being smaller” how quickly the sky and the water has cleaned up is a great example of that.
You have had messages of hope in your work previously, which seems apt for today – what are your hopes for the world? Well I am hoping for better, but it can be debilitating at times! We seem to be being led globally by people whose only interests are in themselves and what they can make from the world or the people they exploit, enabled and emboldened by governments. We need to return to the first nation peoples’ ideologies of caretakers of the planet, not owners of it. The powerful force of nature will rid the earth of us otherwise. There’s a human-made apathy that is building in us that scares me. Nurture is nature and vice versa if treated the right way and we know what it is to be nurtured, yet we don’t seem to be doing this for each other. Possessions and money and are over-riding this and it cannot continue, we need a revolution of the soul and that starts with us, inside us, ourselves, then extends to others and the world around us. There is too much pain and suffering. As an artist, I feel it is my role to make mention of this in my work. Again, as mentioned earlier, in a way that is gentle, considered and sometimes, where needed, small. Strong negative reactions are usually based in fear and we are in fearful times, so now more than ever we need to be compassionate.
Despite the themes you explore or express in your art, there is a gentleness to your work. Why is that? That’s very kind of you to say that, to think that of what I do. I am always a work in progress and looking back through images or sketches, etc, I can see a softer approach to what I do, in the line in the “descriptive part of the drawing”. You know, in the early 90s I was very angry about things, I was trying to get by, trying to make work, travelling by the seat of my pants and I think this was reflected in that. My work was sharp and violent in many ways, and it shows to me, but like all things when you do them enough and then connected to my life journey it slowly changed, for me I cannot separate how I feel from what I do, so when I am doing something, making a work I have to look internally, connect to how I feel, I still reference that 14 year old kid out at night with a spraycan, in the middle of making something, experimenting, trying, failing but ultimately the joy of painting, or at other times the energy and rage that motivated me to paint a wall in the daytime in 1985, to harness these emotions, then make something that makes me think about it, but also let it go, this is the hard part for me so to have it noticed is appreciated.
2002. The Ghost Village, Scotland.
Stormie + Remi Rough Collaboration.
If you were Jenny and Scott Morrison was asking your advice on current sexual harassment issues – which or what character would you give him? Right now, I feel they’d have to be a right couple of monsters! I’m not sure, I hope that I wouldn’t be able to draw them so soulless. I watch people a lot, observation is an important part of “information gathering” that I do, so I watch people’s actions & for me their actions don’t match their words, so to create something that dissconbobulated would be a challenge, but then history is littered with monsters posing as humans, so following that thread of thought perhaps it would have to be a more traditional portrait, to show the monster for what they really are.
Thinking about broader issues in the world right now – which of your characters from your body of work would you hand to people, places and movements right now and why? Interestingly, I have been approached by a few groups that have been protesting the policies on climate change in the last year or so, Street Art Rebellion reached out last year, they are a French group that have been billposting works from a network of artists around the world, all the posters are available for free to download & print & all about the current sitc & wanting change to policys on the global climate now. More recently Extinction Rebellion in WA asked me to work with them, we are following up on this. For a long time I have tried to place messages in my work, that perhaps hasn’t been so obvious, but more open to personal interpretation, so for it to be seen as something that might help is a good thing, public space is exactly that, given or taken, so it’s always meant a message to me whether people understood it or not, whether it had permission or not, it's very different from paintings in galleries or private spaces & we have done a lot of charity work over the years, from small workshops to limited editions for the WA Aids Council or On My Feet the homeless charity so we often pick things that are close to our hearts or we have empathy for to try to help & will continue to do so.
You are now, and have been for quite a while, one of Western Australia’s (and Australia’s) great artists on the global scene – how do you feel when you look back over your career, body of work and exhibitions/initiatives/festivals you have been a part of? Again, very kind of you to say so. It doesn’t often get said like that so it’s very humbling. I often feel like I could or should have done more. However, someone pointed out to me that I have done a lot of work over the years, so much so that they were struggling to get their head around it! Having said that, there have been a lot of good things I’ve been fortunate to be involved in. I was really privileged to be the first street artist to create a sanctioned work as part of the Florence Biennale in Italy in 2018 – this was a really awesome project and I was really blown away to be able to create this work. 2009 The Ghost Village, in Scotland, is still a standout: three days in a remote ghost town in Scotland, total freedom, no agendas or briefs… I painted 21 characters moving to a communal space… the inhabitants of the village that never came... It led me to being asked to be involved in The Underbelly Project (2010), in New York City, which was an unsanctioned street art gallery curated by Workhorse & Pac in an unused subway station. This project was extraordinary to be part of. Earlier, 2005 I think, was the first year of the Wynwood Walls in Miami curated by Primary Projects. My friend Kenton Parker introduced me to Books and Jo & Typoe, and I did a little jammie for them, then came back a few years later on a bigger project with my friend Remi Rough (we’ve done many projects together since the late-80s).
Are there any events that truly stand out as being something really special? I think I might have answered this previously, but it does give me the opportunity to talk about other events! I was invited to paint murals in Greece as part of the Cultural Olympiad in 2002. I spent a bit of time there, travelling and painting all over Greece with the person who came up with the concept, Woozy, and a team of artists, including Stelios Faitakis (Greece), Impe (Greece), Daniel Codeak (Hong Kong), Daniel Besok (Germany), Nina (Brazil) and Os Gemeos (Brazil). We free-styled murals in Athens, Volos, Kalamata, Patra and Chania, and taught local kids how to use spraypaint in workshops. It was painting everyday, and often at night we would find spots to do our thing for ourselves. In 2016, I was invited by Urban Forms to make a work in Lodz, Poland. The location of the work was Baluty, or otherwise known as the Jewish Ghetto in WW2.

In 2016, I was invited by Urban Forms to make a work in Lodz, Poland. The location of the work was Baluty, or otherwise known as the Jewish Ghetto in WW2 (see above). From here more than 5000 people lost their lives in the gas chambers of Auschwitz. Many buildings in the area still had the scars of war. It was a very special honour to paint there for me.
— Stormie
“... Street Art has trends, of course, but those that have discerning eyes know the difference and those that don’t, well, they enjoy the view also. I always like the analogy I have for music: some are happy to play in cover bands, some want to play their own tunes, some need to get paid, some do it for love, etc etc ”
If there were one exhibition you would love to do anywhere in the world, which hasn’t yet been done, what would that be and what would you hope it would achieve or what messaging would you give it? I went back to North Wales at 16 years old & lied there until my early 20’s, (I was born there & visited for extended periods with my family throughout my childhood) I lived in Rhos-on-Sea a seaside town that was invaded by tourists in the summer & empty & almost desolate in the winter, I was a strange dichotomy to live in, to feel like a local when no one else is around & yet to feel like a complete stranger when a space you are so familiar with is overtaken by so many people on mass. For this reason, I feel I have a bit of an understanding to how people in places like NYC must feel but more so in smaller places that are tourist destinations but not necessarily ever built for it, so for these reasons I would probably I’d say Venice. I’d like to go there as soon as possible again, find an old boat & restore it with the help of our friends at Classic Boats Venice, then I could row around making drawings etc for works & then paint them there. I think as do many people, that Venice is an amazing City, but people only see it as that & such a small portion of it, there are so many people that live there that have lives that don’t go near the tourist areas, I’d like to document that. Our love of Venice is drowning it, it’s a symbol of how. Much we need to care for things deeply, not just on the surface, it also has such an aging population that are like living ghosts of the city, I think there’s something in that process I would find.
You have painted throughout the world, has your work changed in different environments around the world – if so, how? Painting in the streets for me has always been a kind of response to the environment, it requires a process that works along the lines of Time, Place & Circumstance. Whether it be watercolours in Antarctica using snow or drawing a giant skeleton in the Pilbara into a salt lake bed. I like work that makes me think in terms of message & problem solving, as a kid that had to “liberate” materials (which I wasn’t very good at anyways!) not having everything to hand meant I would have to consider my moves carefully with limited resources, not have enough paint to finish a work is the worst!
And is there a collective consciousness in street art around the world, or does the theme differ in different global regions? Well, I think that like most things the world has become so homogenised because of technology. When I was 15 information was much slower, I remember going to Garden City & getting a look at Blues & Soul Magazine, I sometimes had some graffiti in it & it was already 6 months old! The spray paint I used to use from a hardware store, any hardware store was maybe 6 colours, if you wanted more colours you had to go to hobby stores, but they generally didn’t work because they were too old! So, this set a regional style because of availability to access materials, some countries had less access to spray paint & used roller paint also, in the 80’s & 90’s I feel there was a greater emphasis on experimentation & developing of ideas. Now we have access to so much more but even technology has out stripped this mixed in with incredible amounts of consumerism & marketing algorithms & its just crazy! We don’t need all this stuff, we don’t need to all dress the same, hell we don’t need to all look the same, it is like we can’t stand out anymore, so like this Street Art has trends, of course but those that have decerning eyes know the difference & those that don’t well they enjoy the view also. I always like the analogy I have for music; some are happy to play in cover bands, some want to play their own tunes, some need to get paid, some do it for love, etc etc.
Having worked around the world – solo and in groups – who are the fellow artists or creatives who you have connected with most or developed the most respect for and why? In 1989 I was living in Wales and became a member of a group known as Ikonoklast we were much more influenced by the idea of painting & experimentation, it wasn’t so much of a copying of the NYC train painting era, it was respected it, but we also understood we didn’t come from that time or place & were focused on work that was different, more within our own personal stories, experimentation & experiences. I am still good friends with Remi Roughe, Juice 126 & Jason System & they still influence me, but also Quentin Blake has been my hero since I was a kid in particular. Other creatives like John Fekner, Futura, Jenny Holzer, pretty much anyone that featured in Allan Schwartzman’s 1986 book “Street Art”. In more recent years I am constantly amazed by David Downtown’s economy of line & deft use of watercolour.
Your art is no longer just on a wall and canvas, it’s spreading onto chairs, characters are joined by text and colour is seeping into your palette – how and why has this evolved? I think as an artist it’s good to review your history, constantly reference your own work & influences & so I have been doing more of that in such a reflective time, taking advantage of the good fortune we have in Perth, Western Australia of having no community transfer. Haring & Jean-Michel Basquiat text & line drawings in NYC also I am referencing in the simpler of where line meets tagging with an oil bar marker. This is a good time to revisit & “play”
What is next for you in terms of your practice, exhibitions and messages to the world? I still have some larger commissions to do this year, a sculpture to finish & some big wall works late this year. My next focus for a body of work is for a children’s book it is still being developed & will be a story that I personally understand & feel the need to tell, the message is of a very personal experience that I hope will help other kids that had a similar childhood to mine.
“I didn’t study art, I made it. It was trial and error, incremental circles of repetition and improvement with quantum leaps for concepts. So, while I still feel that I can experiment and, at times, need to fail in order to improve, that isn’t always the way it is perceived. This is where needing to endure criticism or opinions comes in: you need a thick skin and to ignore the haters – just keep making.”
Your first steps into the art world were in a very different time, can you describe what you had to endure to pursue your art? Endure is a good word! I didn’t study art, I made it, it was trial and error, incremental circles of repetition and improvement with quantum leaps for concepts, so while I still feel that I can experiment and, at times need to fail in order to improve, that isn’t always the way it is perceived. This is where needing to endure criticism or opinions comes in. You need a thick skin and to ignore the haters, just keep making. I was fortunate to have Melissa always in my corner, always propping me up when I needed it and encouraging me. She is the reason I have done so much and am able to continue. We all need our own team – sometimes more often than we know!
What would you say to anyone starting out today? So much, but it would need to be tailored to the individual. But the short version is be prolific and if people are telling you not to quit your day job, but that is not in your heart, then go with your heart. It is your passion that will carry you, not other people’s opinions.
And those wanting to take their art further, as you have, to reach the success you have attained? I always made art, from when I was a kid, no matter what I had to do to pay the rent it was always my obsession & it was about being true to myself & for me this is important success has many definitions, different to everybody so define it yourself & focus on that, don’t follow trends.
You call yourself a street and visual artist – how do the two differ? Do they really differ these days? Mostly I call myself a painter, although I’m less concerned about titled nowadays, street art, graffiti, visual art they are all for me & other people will have differing opinions on this & that’s ok to, but I always drew on things, I don’t really change the things I use, the mediums are the same for wall/canvas/found objects etc.
Who are the people you are currently watching as leaders, innovators and even disruptors in the street art scene? Other friends like Gonzalo Borondo, Fabio Tellas, & the monumental sculptural works of Edoardo Tresoldio really inspire me. Jordan Seiler is doing amazing projects with connection & communication, his anti-advertising work in NYC has reshaped my thoughts on public space.
Lastly, if you could go back time to the first time you stepped out into the night with a spray can, what would you say to yourself? Don’t be so scared, don’t listen to those that have ‘made up the rules’. Don’t try to fit in.
“... if people are telling you not to quit your day job, but that is not in your heart, then go with your heart. It is your passion that will carry you, not other people’s opinions.”
Fast facts.
Can’t beat the breakfast at home. Last big holiday in the state was Denmark. Movie I last watched… Seaspiracy. My cocktail/ drink of choice is a Negroni in Massimo’s kiosk in the carpark in Mazzaro, Sicily.
When shopping I can’t go past boat fixings in boat shops. The biggest kept secret in WA and Perth is our river, it is so underutilised as a resource. I’m procrastinating over the body of work for a children’s book.
Last addition to my playlist The Boom Bap Kids. Weekends are best when they move without pressure or resistance.
Image by Frances Andrijich.
Getting personal.
Art/design hero. John Fekner & Don Leicht (RIP). Image: Slow Down Children Growing (1988, London) by John Fekner (photo courtesy John Fekner & Artangel).
Favourite space. On a restored vintage wooden boat on the river.
Designer buy. Unravel Project by Ben Taverniti.
Material obsession. Sketchbooks, in particular the Moleskin Japanese fold.
Following. Less.
Watching + listening. Watching people not screens; listening to anything.
Reading. Is something you can’t do enough of; ignorance isn’t a style.
Supporting. Homeless people either through 100% volunteer organisations like On My Feet or by speaking to them personally and listening to their stories.
Working on? Self, so I can give more of who I really am to those I love.
If I were PM… I’d never be PM, I am an anarchist.